Curse

diabiosx · Nov 13, 2010, 06:21 PM // 18:21

WoH has no chance of holding up capture points hoh. Healing burst will suck against bspike. Not sure how healing burst with its +70hp every10seconds will do in capture points.

Waldir · Nov 13, 2010, 07:57 PM // 19:57

WoH

12chars

bungusmaximus · Nov 13, 2010, 09:43 PM // 21:43

had great experience with a standard GvG backline.

superraptors · Nov 14, 2010, 11:37 AM // 11:37

still run healers boon imo in ha, even though heal party got nerfed, you shouldnt be spamming it to heal urself up in any 1 v 1 situation, heal party was good for halls and cap points so it took a beating for altar maps, pretty much what they did was promote more hexways

if im not wrong its party members within earshot, healing burst is crap compared to woh or hb.

personally id go with hb still, but if you rely on heal party too much[should be 75% of the rits job to keep party bars up] id go with woh

the hb with infuse is really needed for koth or anyspike when ur ghost might be hex stacked or deep wounded the +50%heals will counteract the -20% healing from deep wound, not to mention the near instant activation

diabiosx · Nov 14, 2010, 04:36 PM // 16:36

well WoH heals 81hp xtra when <50% on a single target. It heals for a total of 238 at 14h/11d. Where burst heals for 482 total at 14h/11d.
So if burst has enough healing power to heal up a spike, IMO burst should be superior.

Reverend Dr · Nov 15, 2010, 03:42 AM // 03:42

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Originally Posted by Waldir

WoH

twelve characters

galactic · Nov 17, 2010, 01:11 AM // 01:11

bspike... lol wtf runs that anymore

diabiosx · Nov 24, 2010, 03:19 AM // 03:19

delete thanks

Killed u man · Nov 24, 2010, 03:34 AM // 03:34

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Originally Posted by diabiosx

i have come to the conclusion that healing burst is better

could've told you that when they updated the skill.

In HA, there's no such thing as spikes, only shitway, trashway and some more shitway. Ow ye, a balanced gets kills through knocking shit in AoE.

Healing Burst does more than enough to warrant it as a single target heal. The party heal just makes it twice as good as WoH, as it litteraly is twice the healing power.

There is only a handfull out of a million possible situations where WoH would be better than Burst, and even in those situations, it's unlikely the difference is big enough for the match to go any better in your advantage.

Asda che ti Passa · Nov 29, 2010, 10:10 AM // 10:10

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Originally Posted by diabiosx

i have come to the conclusion that healing burst is better

that skill is just crap. Healer's Boon even with heal party nerfed.

Lews · Dec 01, 2010, 11:11 AM // 11:11

I don't play HA too often anymore, but in the last week or so, the few times I've played (and held), we've ran a standard GvG backline, but with Channeling instead of the defensive warrior stances.

diabiosx · Dec 07, 2010, 01:47 AM // 01:47

HB is ass now just so you know, heal party is the main reason why HB was ran. HP allows you to heal yourself up with its 2second recharge when patient is recharging, now you basically only have 1 self heal skill, its so easy to own the hb infuser. I go lol if you actually think HB is still good, any semi decent team rends/strips the infuser on recharge. not to mention when the infuse has to split and be away from the prot, gg peace out cant heal self.
and yes people still run bspike

shadows of hob · Dec 07, 2010, 04:04 PM // 16:04

I only see BBways.....

Sirius Bsns · Dec 07, 2010, 05:39 PM // 17:39

It's really debatable, but look here...

Healer's Boon [Pros]:
Healing Bonus
Fast Casts
...[Cons]
Strippable
Entire Bar depends on being enchanted with HB
Cannot Split

WoH [Pros]
Power Heal
Independent Healing Spell
Can Run Splits
...[Cons]
Interruptible
No Healing Bonus

They both have more pros and cons, but WoH definitely outshines HB.

Asda che ti Passa · Dec 07, 2010, 11:16 PM // 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by diabiosx

HB is ass now just so you know, heal party is the main reason why HB was ran. HP allows you to heal yourself up with its 2second recharge when patient is recharging, now you basically only have 1 self heal skill, its so easy to own the hb infuser. I go lol if you actually think HB is still good, any semi decent team rends/strips the infuser on recharge. not to mention when the infuse has to split and be away from the prot, gg peace out cant heal self.
and yes people still run bspike

you need to spam heal party only when your team is retarded and cant kite dmg.
Patient Spirit and Cure Hex Is enough to heal up yourself.
Strip/Rend people is not running rupts anymore?
Split On Infuse? There is actualy some split on ha? 5th map infuse is alone the 20 seconds that takes to the team to whipe the other one. And he got the ass covered by wos, wow ecc ecc.

Sirius Bsns · Dec 08, 2010, 01:00 AM // 01:00

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Originally Posted by Asda che ti Passa

you need to spam heal party only when your team is retarded and cant kite dmg.
Patient Spirit and Cure Hex Is enough to heal up yourself.
Strip/Rend people is not running rupts anymore?
Split On Infuse? There is actualy some split on ha? 5th map infuse is alone the 20 seconds that takes to the team to whipe the other one. And he got the ass covered by wos, wow ecc ecc.

PS alone isn't enough, and Cure Hex relies on the condition whereby your enemies must hex you, which isn't 100% always the case. Also, rend/strip kills off your 50% bonus healing, taking you down to 114-342 health [if HB stripped, ps->ch->ps gives you PS->CH->PS]. Deep wound and Lingering Curse plus 2+ cover hexes are not factored in there, either.

urania · Dec 08, 2010, 12:52 PM // 12:52

woh+patient with inspired enchant>rest

Otello · Dec 08, 2010, 01:58 PM // 13:58

I prefer healing burst, it makes easier to face hexways and degen team

Fate Crusher · Dec 15, 2010, 12:52 AM // 00:52

I've ran healing burst as of late and I love it. I've even successfully outhealed teams on top of forgotten shrines repeatedly. And not even had a problem with splits (ahem, Hells).

Healing Burst is just too good in HA now. As much as I love WoH and HB, the party heal is just great (I run 13/13/6 so it's 140hp +42 party heal). Hell, I can even afford to get dwaynas diverted on purpose because I heal up with Burst and patient, just as effective as when I ran with HB. SoR is decent enough too.

Anyone who prefers WoH now is just being delusional. You're pushing red bars so much, anything below 50% is being spiked and therefore needs a fuse ^^. Don't be bad <3

Corporeal Ghost · Dec 15, 2010, 04:05 AM // 04:05

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Originally Posted by Fate Crusher

Anyone who prefers WoH now is just being delusional. You're pushing red bars so much, anything below 50% is being spiked and therefore needs a fuse ^^.

That sounds like a horrible state for game balance to be in.